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Who "won" this trade? Poll is created on Feb 13, 2024

  
  
  
  
Poll results: Who "won" this trade?
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Poll is created on Feb 13, 2024
Anaheim wins  -  votes: 4 / 57.1%
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New Orleans wins  -  votes: 0 / 0%
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Both win  -  votes: 3 / 42.9%
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Both lose  -  votes: 0 / 0%
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The Eddington / Two 1sts Trade

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Archers trade C Haywood Eddington to the Gators
Gators trade C Dewayne Cavazos, 2036 Gators 1st, 2038 Gators 1st to the Archers


   
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I think the Archers win this even though the Gators get what they were looking for.

ANA gets 2 1sts plus a very serviceable big in Cavazos ( I like him very much at least). 

That's a win imho, especially because ANA stays young with the deal.


   
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The Gators were in need of a big C/PF and some more rebounding. on the other side we were very limited with budget options.

My first hope was Waldrop from the Swing,
my second hope was Eddington from the Archers and
my third hope was Batson from the Evolution.

The Gators managed to get Eddington, who is missing some ORB, but he is still young, he is big, he can score and rebound, he is quick for his size, he has a nice 3 year contract with the option of bird years and in New Orleans he has a chance to prove himself. The Archers get two 1st rounders that will help them rebuilding. They might be assets for future trades, they might get the Archers one or two valuable guys for the future.

In my Opinion we both win.


   
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This is an interesting trade. Gators are looking for more rebounding and give up 2 1st's for a player that isn't a good rebounder either. Overall I think Eddington is the better player though. Offensively it's similar, with a small advantage for Eddington, who is also a much better ballhandler and can pass a little. However he also lacks defensive skills, fouls a lot and blocks little with mediocre post defense.
Is this small of an upgrade worth 2 first rounders? Maybe.
Eddington is on a super nice contract though, so that makes also plays into it.

For the Archers it is a great deal in my eyes. They are winners for sure.

So overall I tend to say both win. Archers win for sure, Gators I am not 100% sure. However I like that Edi is "going for it" and makes a deal to help his team where he thinks it needs an upgrade. Really love to see a GM being a bit more aggressive in trades. Edi really has developed the Gators in something great with an even greater future ahead. Great work Edi!


   
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Posted by: @tritonsgm

I think the Archers win this even though the Gators get what they were looking for.

ANA gets 2 1sts plus a very serviceable big in Cavazos ( I like him very much at least). 

That's a win imho, especially because ANA stays young with the deal.

 

This. All of this.

 


   
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I struggled with this because I snapped him up when he was just a little Yellow/Green guy and he really blossomed this year.  In my head, I was like "yeah, I'll keep him and bring him up alongside other young guys."  In 3-4 seasons, it'll be great!

When I got the inquiry, I was forced to look at him through a critical lens.  What does he DO? 

16.7 points per 36... 17th
7.5 rebounds per 36... 46th
2.9 assists per 36... 10th
0.2 steals... 54th
0.4 blocks... 50th
2.0 turnovers... 28th 
3.5 fouls... 25th 

PSD 62.

So, really, all he does was make buckets but, problem is, he doesn't shoot that many.  He and Lindstrom have nearly an identical TS% but Lindstrom has the extra speed, INS, JPS, JMP, QKN, etc. that make him who he is.  So, barring massive improvement (which could happen maybe), he's pretty average (or in some categories terrible) at pretty much everything else other centers do... except pass.

So he's going to be, kind of what he is... a 12-14 point, 7 board guy and it looks like that'll be pretty much his entire career.  That isn't bad, per se, but what he lacks puts pressure on the frontcourt to rebound or block or do those things he's pedestrian at.  I have shooter/scorer types who have higher USG so they commanded shots away from him (which is now the Gators' problem to solve as, based on stats right now, he's 8th in USG on their depth chart).  Even Eddington's 59.9% true shooting percentage was only 1% to 2% off other players on my team so, for all that FG% he put up, he's not so far ahead on my squad as to make it an irreplicable loss.

When I came to the understanding that he's not really a fit on my team, as it's composed now, I decided to pull the trigger.  He doesn't lift us anywhere but back on the treadmill of mediocrity in the next few seasons.  Then, in the three seasons, his value contract is over and the price for that 12 and 7 climbs quite a bit.  Then, when he's entering his prime, my defensively inclined C/PF are going to be pretty much done.  I didn't like the look of the squad with him being "THE MAN" alongside geriatric Santiago and Azevedo even though I still have faith they will do the things I bought them for... just not as much is all.  Sure, I could bring in some people but I'd have midrange picks and MLE's to do that with so options are limited.  I figure it better to open up more options and, with the deal for Azevedo in play, I figured that I'd pull the trigger on moving Eddington.

Granted, I think he's a better player overall at 24 than what I'll find at the Gator's pick this year the it's 24 but, you never know... I could get lucky and pick up a diamond in the rough.  Eddington was a #14 pick so, just doing this year's pick made no sense unless it was at or better than that value... and nobody was breaking down my door to get me a lottery pick for him.  The far future pick is a gamble.  Maybe the Gators are good, maybe they aren't.  They have five talented players that go through that time but one he Eddington and the other is Wright who's no spring chicken.  Maybe Wright gets mugged by Father Time or somebody breaks a leg and I clean up.  If they are good, I get another asset to try and mesh with my existing group.  If they are bad, then I hit the jackpot.  At a minimum, regardless of where the pick lands, I'll have a possibility to find a player better suited and more in line with where my team apparently is now (which was vastly different from where I thought I'd be just a few months ago in FA).

I do think Eddington is a fit to the Gators' style.  They are very finesse oriented.  Kind of like the Gregg Popovich lead Spurs where they pass like mad.  He'll only help that.  His FG% should mean he'll flush those dimes when they come his way and he can create some for his new teammates.  Do I think this makes him a cup team?  Unfortunately, no but it does align with the style.

I know... "Classic Eric wall of text" but I like to throw out my thoughts on the matter transparently.  Hell, maybe it'll help some other GMs when they grapple with the same thoughts on some other trade out there.


   
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@archersgm even the slightest comparison to Greg Popovich is a great honour ....


   
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